16th April 2012
UPDATE 20th April – MEMRI has plenty of links showing what Ahmed said and who reported it. I suppose much of it was, er … lost in translation of this… er… Pakistan-born “Lord” while in, er… Pakistan.
Lord Ahmed: “If the Labour Party want to suspend me I will deal with the Labour Party. They will have to give me some evidence.”
The “bounty” threats, spoken allegedly by Lord Nazir Ahmed, came in two online reports.
Episode 1 In his first mouthing-off, on Tuesday 10th April, it was reported that Ahmed would sell his house and beg in the streets to raise a US$10M bounty on George Bush (and Tony Blair.)
Somehow this evaded the attention of the Bush- & Blair-hating press. At a seminar at the Punjab University he was reported as saying, “I announce 10 million dollars reward against Mr George W Bush.” He also said, reportedly, then too that he would collect the money whether he had to beg in the streets – but “Bush and Tony Blair should be charged with war crimes.”
Episode 2, Upping the Anti, Herald Tribune – ‘Sterling’ (GBP£10M) bounty offered for Obama, Bush
Ahmed’s second entry into public ranting on this issue, which seems to have culminated in his “suspension”, was reported by the Herald Tribune on Saturday 14th April. Here he mentions Obama as well as Bush. So perhaps someone in Obama’s administration took exception to this.
In both reports, unless BOTH misreported him, he called for a “bounty”
Now I’m not sure what YOU think when someone used the word “bounty”. Personally I imagine a wild west type poster with “dead or alive” in bold lettering.
Ahmed now claims to be shocked and horrified at these claims. I bet he is!
THE “10,000/10,000,000” INCITER
Ahmed seems to be obsessed by the number “10”. Can’t imagine why.
I noted how he managed to get an earlier threat removed from online publications. It was the threat to mobilise 10,000 Muslims on Parliament if Geert Wilders dared to turn up there to speak to other peers as arranged. I am therefore surprised that his original “bounty” story is still up there for all to see: ‘Lord Nazir announces $10m bounty for Bush, Blair‘ Excerpt:
Lord Nazir Ahmad said he is ready to give $10m as bounty for war criminals, Bush and Blair.
While addressing a seminar on World Panorama and Our Responsibilities at University of the Punjab, he said that courts have accepted innocence of Hafiz Saeed but ex-US president Bush and UK prime minister Tony Blair committed tremendously dangerous crimes in the in the name of war on terror; so special award should be announced for them.
He said that the US may hit Iran in order to have victory in general polls.
Allowing for a misleading headline, and putting aside the notion that Ahmed supports a suspected terrorist and would be happy to work with Pakistan’s warlords, the call for a bounty on George Bush and at the very least by implication on Tony Blair can be seen here.
I picked this up last Tuesday, 10th April, at about 9:30pm, and tweeted on it repeatedly. There were a few Labour party members and supporters RTing but not, frankly, as many as there should have been.
I took the precaution to save his reported comments at the site as originally shown; just in case this evidence does a disappearing trick, as before. (A few of my tweets with dates, from 10th April, appear below).
AGENDAS AND (EDITED?) TAPES
I now understand via a tweet by Patrick Wintour that “Channel 4 has a tape of Ahmed speech – vows to raise cash to bring Bush and Blair to “justice” at ICC, but no mention of Obama or bounty.”
Channel4 is in the same Blair-baiting boat as the BBC. On Radio4’s News at 6 this evening they mentioned the suspension, finishing lightly with “Lord Ahmed expects the suspension to be lifted shortly”.
He should be stripped of the Labour whip AND his peerage. If he doesn’t know what to do with his old peerage papers he could always send them back to whence they came: Tony Blair.
For arrest and conviction of course
Earlier posts at this site on
I would have had Lord Ahmed locked up for this in 2009 – http://keeptonyblairforpm.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/lord-ahmed-threatens-to-mobilise-10000-so-wilders-visit-off/ – Who the hell does he think he is? Good Lord!
Thanks, JR. Just found that. Though I do NOT normally judge people B4 real proof it’s time to let people know abt Ignoble Lord.
I had one or two telling me that I would be accused of racism or was stopping Ahmed’s “free speech”. (Sigh) Like –
Kameel Premhid you’re missing the nuance of what I’m saying. People will deride you for making what could be perceived as a racist attack